tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.comments2010-07-30T06:57:27.963-04:00Steve Hornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11799829988971859359noreply@blogger.comBlogger125125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-68585140329927714222010-07-23T09:53:00.501-04:002010-07-23T09:53:00.501-04:00you could use dynamics:<br /><br />dynamic result = _pieController.SomeMethod();<br /><br />Assert.That(result.Data.something, Is ...<br /><br />Just remember to make the assembly you&#39;re testing InternalsVisibleTo. ie add to its AssemblyInfo.cs: <br /><br />[assembly:InternalsVisibleTo(&quot;TestAssembly&quot;)]Stefano Martinznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-71406943335696819322010-05-31T11:11:24.107-04:002010-05-31T11:11:24.107-04:00You have to WORK to make it look like that! For a lot of people that line flattens out pretty quickly.Craighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16176785245231040702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-77551154272940938222010-05-24T09:37:15.512-04:002010-05-24T09:37:15.512-04:00Pretty nice! Thank you!Eduardo Cobucihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14360065098305930345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-55894097632031142372010-04-25T12:26:28.264-04:002010-04-25T12:26:28.264-04:00@Schotime<br /><br />How do you propose I &quot;...just test the values that are returned.&quot; <br /><br />There is no easy way (that I know of) to reach inside an anonymous object to validate the data.Steve Hornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11799829988971859359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-21517407497956681172010-04-25T09:50:59.858-04:002010-04-25T09:50:59.858-04:00I wouldn&#39;t test the actual output, cause then you are testing the serializer. I would just test the values that are returned.Schotimehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02809556895038511604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-91771864111911838072010-04-19T22:24:58.867-04:002010-04-19T22:24:58.867-04:00Check out what Michael is doing...<br />http://github.com/walkingdisaster/lingualJon Krugerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17967382331944684749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-13597399966479605512010-04-15T06:32:18.098-04:002010-04-15T06:32:18.098-04:00Could this google:baseURL thing be adapted for google.co.uk?Roberthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10536361766001684444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-77968753748309357362010-04-07T16:09:03.209-04:002010-04-07T16:09:03.209-04:00as for Git vs Hg... as long as your on a DVCS, who cares.<br /><br />however, for me GitHub is Git&#39;s killer feature - to date I&#39;ve seen nothing in the Hg world that even compares with the workflow, automation, and democratization enhancements that GitHub brings to the Git community.<br /><br />but then, that&#39;s just my $0.02.Steven Harmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04988908140962422361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-21964313065919187172010-03-15T14:27:57.790-04:002010-03-15T14:27:57.790-04:00Nice article!<br /><br />For finding the arguments passed to a stubbed method in Moq, you can simply specify the argument to match or use the It.Is... methods. See <a href="http://code.google.com/p/moq/wiki/QuickStart" rel="nofollow">Introduction to Moq</a> under Matching Arguments. You could return a specific value or use Verify (see the example &quot;Verify setter with an argument matcher&quot; in the above link).<br /><br />Moq also supports both out and ref arguments; see Methods in the above link.TrueWillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06265686844768652228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-3349502126660727532010-03-06T19:27:57.762-05:002010-03-06T19:27:57.762-05:00@Matt<br /><br />I agree that TDD isn&#39;t about project management.<br /><br />My idea is this: Given a problem, n developers will produce n designs to solve that problem. How could you ever quantify those designs and choose the best one? So the point is...you don&#39;t choose one design. Instead conduct experiments and learn what the best possible solution is over time.Steve Hornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11799829988971859359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-9184808794806046152010-03-06T18:51:18.396-05:002010-03-06T18:51:18.396-05:00Interesting blog, but a tiny bit pretentious.<br /><br />I agree up to the point where you suggest that Test Driven Development is synonymous with medical trials. TDD is about quality, not project management.Matt Castohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10228422353049379964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-14505770317414648972010-03-03T21:35:34.299-05:002010-03-03T21:35:34.299-05:00Just downloaded, unzipped and successfully launched the MVC modal web app. The modal popup works like a charm when using the VS development server but not when switching to the IIS server (the app launches but nothing visible happens when the modal link is clicked).<br /><br />Any ideas why? Could it be IE&#39;s popup blocker?<br /><br />Thanks &amp; take care.<br /><br />Troy S.tscheffelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11404124217666246078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-9205852767325218852010-01-25T10:54:52.547-05:002010-01-25T10:54:52.547-05:00@Bill<br />Thanks for taking the time to reply. <br /><br />When I was putting together that list I was putting myself downstream from the need for software and delighting the customer. If that need doesn&#39;t exist then my values and I are irrelevant. The values here apply to software construction and making the customer successful with that software.<br /><br />Meeting the requirements is implied under quality, and it does drive a design process... Test Driven Design. I like NUnit and a simple runner such as ReSharper to execute the tests.<br /><br />For communicating requirements and interactions with the end user I like tools like Balsamiq and/or number 2 pencils and paper to sketch mockups/wireframes.<br /><br />Since I value quality over scope and budget, I urge(usually don&#39;t insist) my customer to flex scope in order to deal with the unpredictable nature of software development. This takes huge amounts of trust and respect from both parties, but it&#39;s worth it.Steve Hornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11799829988971859359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-55766265824615754132010-01-25T10:10:42.295-05:002010-01-25T10:10:42.295-05:00I like this post - quite inspiring.<br /><br />However, I notice a distinct lack of pragmatism. For instance, I noticed that you didn&#39;t mention that you value the needs of the business user, or getting the project done, one time and under budget, or making life easier for the people who will have to edit your code in 10 years.<br /><br />I realize that you might think &#39;but of course I value those things, it is obvious so I didn&#39;t list them.&#39; And perhaps you are right. If I were writing such a list, I wouldn&#39;t mention quality, becasue I feel that is obvious. Different strokes and all of that.<br /><br />My only reason for mentioning this is to make you question if adding those things to your values would change the results. For instance, if meeting requirements is a value, does that drive a design process, and mandate a design tool?<br /><br />Just my $0.02.Bill Sempfhttp://www.sempf.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-79972653992084595272010-01-02T19:25:39.943-05:002010-01-02T19:25:39.943-05:00I&#39;ve been looking all over for this!<br /><br />Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-41600251352329353742009-12-23T10:08:37.416-05:002009-12-23T10:08:37.416-05:00Your first line made me smile; long ago I was thrilled to land my first tech writer job until I heard Gloria Gery (performance support guru) say that writers are overhead, that user guides are compensation for poor UI design!twiegmannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04457394330593396391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-74817583614404733302009-12-22T21:47:48.226-05:002009-12-22T21:47:48.226-05:00Nice post, Steve.<br /><br />Add this one to your reading list: http://www.pragprog.com/titles/pad/practices-of-an-agile-developerTimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11470576015704065027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-31073779080997264122009-12-18T12:28:50.137-05:002009-12-18T12:28:50.137-05:00Thanks a lot....<br /><br />thank you....<br /><br />got what neededZakir husainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05269139170684325862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-21344708574674398142009-11-18T00:23:26.155-05:002009-11-18T00:23:26.155-05:00It is very interesting for me to read that post. Thanx for it. I like such topics and anything that is connected to them. I would like to read a bit more on that blog soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-80895158498001422592009-11-10T22:47:26.749-05:002009-11-10T22:47:26.749-05:00I found this site using [url=http://google.com]google.com[/url] And i want to thank you for your work. You have done really very good site. Great work, great site! Thank you!<br /><br />Sorry for offtopicAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-68694752206021352832009-10-20T12:08:22.853-04:002009-10-20T12:08:22.853-04:00Been searching for a good fix like this for awhile. Excellent work around!Andrew Rosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03413736890970839931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-39203548242818853912009-10-16T05:32:28.356-04:002009-10-16T05:32:28.356-04:00Thanks for the post. It was really helpful. I have started using MVCContrib TestHelpers. This post was a good starting point.nileshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08751134520882289693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-8267704265928082272009-10-02T13:41:45.147-04:002009-10-02T13:41:45.147-04:00Fantastic Post. The first link which I found when made google search for the Nhibernate error pinpointed the problem with my projectAbhijithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04639400089981183826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-9752470889020446102009-09-24T07:17:48.605-04:002009-09-24T07:17:48.605-04:00Top post, it&#39;s a real help. But I&#39;m somewhere between lost and getting-it. I think I&#39;m ok with the individual parts (Fluent, DI, MVC), but I&#39;m lost at how they [glue] come together. You&#39;re post is coming close to what I need. <br /><br />I&#39;ve looked at OSS implementations but they&#39;re to advanced, and posts that show the NHibernate implementation in a UnitTest project don&#39;t go far enough. <br /><br />Do you have a solution file that went with this post so I can see it as a whole?Ben Clark-Robinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11673873016911348150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5996062652829415230.post-69881308903031334022009-09-14T13:03:11.669-04:002009-09-14T13:03:11.669-04:00very cool, thanks!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com